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Welcome to our third of four check-in and discussion posts for our Book of the Month.

This month’s book is Black Spire (Galaxy's Edge #2) by Delilah S. Dawson
Chapters 22-40

Black Spire

1. Vi didn't seem to expect a rescue. Do you think her sense of obligation to her team has changed? (ie. will she feel over-protective)

2. Will the tip Kriki's former boss, Gol, give Kath be enough to seal her fate?

3. Savi and Ylena both seem eager to help Vi and The Resistance and both seem to have some sense of Jedi and The Force. Do you think any character we've met so far will be revealed to have some sort of force-sensitivity?

4. Anything else?



FYI - There's no need to answer all (or any) of the questions above - they're just talking points to get us started. Informal chatter is more than welcome! In-person book clubs often veer off-topic, it's okay if we do as well. :)
All I ask is that you try to avoid spoilers for things past Part 3 of the book.

Date: 2023-05-23 06:48 am (UTC)
brokenmnemonic: (Mandalorian)
From: [personal profile] brokenmnemonic
1. I think that while Vi is doing her best to build the rebel outpost Leia charged her with building, she's very much accustomed to working on her own and relying on herself. The various Star Wars stories and media move back and forth between how... hardcore? Realistic? they want to be. The safest route for Vi's resistance cell would've been to relocate to somewhere Vi didn't know as soon as she was captured, and write her off as an operational loss, with the survival of the cell and the mission being the most important thing. The fact that they hatched and executed a rescue plan is much more Star Wars heroics than that though, and it felt like we're getting a bit of a mix and match in how the story wants to do things. I'll admit that as soon as she got referred to as Mother Hen in the text, I immediately thought of Father Goose, the Cary Grant WW2 movie! It doesn't read to me as if Vi has a lot of experience in being in charge of a team, so I think it's going to take her a while to find her feet. This is one of the reasons I'm a bit frustrated that Archex hasn't had much to do, because he's someone who's been in a command position, and while the Empire is nothing like the Rebellion in terms of how people are led and managed, he's someone she could be talking with about how to make things work and would be a really useful sounding board, particularly as that could also involve a discussion about how the antagonism between Archex and Zade is or could be causing problems.

2. I'd like to think that Gol ends up getting shunned by the rest of the Black Spire community for being a greedy little informant, possibly with a long-range comms unit inserted into a part of his anatomy, but it feels too early for Vi to be killed as a character - there isn't someone I feel has been teased as being in a position to step up and take over the cell.

3. I'm not sure if we'll get any of the established characters turning out to be force-sensitive, but the way the novel has presented the scrappers makes me want the book to explore the idea that without the Jedi going around hunting for force-users and recruiting them, groups of force-sensitive people are naturally drawn to each other in some way (for good or ill). I like the idea that dotted all around the galaxy are little groups of people like Savi and Ylena who're drawn together because of their shared force sensitivity. After all, the groups that came before the Jedi Order all came together somehow, and with the tease in The Last Jedi that Leia and Rey were possibly going to be exploring the basic concept and teachings of the Jedi, it would be very nifty if this novel was showing us something about how the force works on/with people at a fundamental level.

4. I'm not sure I buy into the romance subplot yet (and it feels like a long time since I was that young) but I realised this week that not only am I finding the novel reads very easily, but that the characters sketches of a lot of the minor characters like Gol and the two little old laides and Oga's henchbeings are working well for me, even as I want much more detail on the characters in the Resistance cell.

Date: 2023-05-28 05:23 pm (UTC)
brokenmnemonic: (Black Widow)
From: [personal profile] brokenmnemonic
I do wish the story could give us more insight into Leia's thinking behind sending both Archex and Vi to Black Spire. I'd really like to know how much she leadership potential Vi has, and how much of it is simply not having anyone else to send.

Dilon and Ylena are who I was thinking of as the romance subplot, aye. It doesn't feel like they had a lot of screentime buildup? I get the feeling that if this was a tv series, we'd probably have had montages at the scrapyard or something similar to help set things up.

Date: 2023-05-23 10:58 pm (UTC)
barbiejedi: a man with blue skin wearing a military uniform (star wars: thrawn with bells on)
From: [personal profile] barbiejedi
1. a rescue plan is much more Star Wars heroics than that though

Definitely. Despite all the recruitment, Vi really hasn't trained anyone in anything, has she? There's some references to Archex being in charge of training them in basic "how to hold gun, pull trigger" stuff but I don't remember any references to actual tradecraft.

3. groups of force-sensitive people are naturally drawn to each other in some way

Kind of reminds me of Chirrut Îmwe in Rogue One-- not Force-sensitive, but drawn to the way of life.

Date: 2023-05-28 05:26 pm (UTC)
brokenmnemonic: (Star Wars Princess)
From: [personal profile] brokenmnemonic
I don't remember any tradecraft tutoring either, and given that they're living in boobytrapped ruins, I would've thought there should've beensome?

I really want to know more about this "glow" that Ylena and the others see around some people...

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